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Date
: 12/01/2006
Source: Department of Foreign Affairs
Title: Dlamini Zuma: Meeting with USA Secretary of State, Dr C
Rice
Transcript of South Africa’s Minister of Foreign Affairs Dr
Nkosazana Dlamini Zuma’s remarks after meeting with the
United States of America’s Secretary of State, Dr Condoleezza
Rice, at the US State Department, Washington DC
Question: Asked on what they discussed with the Secretary of State,
Dr Condoleezza Rice on Iran
Answer: Minister Dlamini Zuma responded by stating that as widely
reported, Iran has decided to break the seals and continue (with
their enrichment programme), "so (we - Dr Zuma and Dr Rice) were
reflecting on what that means and obviously the decision would have
to be taken by the Board of Governors (BoG) so, there may be a
meeting of the BoG to see how they react to that situation".
Question: Follow–up question on how the negotiations process
should unfold and the role that South Africa should play in
assisting in the resolution.
Answer: Minister Dlamini Zuma indicated that "Well, it (such a
decision) would have to be on very clear terms of where we are
going and how we get there, but we have been supporting the
negotiations with the European Union (EU), maybe those negotiations
should continue”.
Question: Do you think Iran should be referred to the United
Nations Security Council (UNSC)? Do you think there should be an
emergency meeting of the International Atomic Energy Agency
(IAEA)?
Answer: Minister Dlamini Zuma said: "I don’t want to prejudge
what the BoG would decide, but the BoG would look at all the facts
and obviously all the conditions and take appropriate
decisions.”
Question: Do you think the talks have reached a dead end in terms
of their usefulness?
Answer: “Well, I think even if it goes to the UNSC, the talks
would still have to continue. So I think talking cannot stop, even
because even if the matter goes to the UNSC, either way discussions
must continue in or outside there.”
Question: But given the fruitlessness of the talks thus far does
South Africa think that sanctions should be taken to Iran?
Answer: Well, South Africa as you know is a country that believes
in multilateralism. We participate in the BoG, so obviously we will
be participating there and we will support the collective decisions
that will be taken by the BoG.
Question: But do you think that Iran has crossed the red
line?
Answer: Well, I think they have broken some of the agreements that
they had reached with the EU, even though it was a voluntary
moratorium, but of course it was part of the EU Agreements.
Question: Do you have good relations with Iran, will you pressure
them to take a different route?
Answer: Well, we have been talking to Iran, we have been talking to
the EU, we will participate in the Board, we will continue, but we
don’t necessarily have a big influence on anybody.
Further reiterating earlier principles mentioned, Minister Dlamini
Zuma emphasised that SA believes in the multilateral system so
clearly if a Board took a collective decision, SA would be part of
that collective decision, so "I wouldn’t like to prejudge
what will happen."
On Zimbabwe:
When asked whether the meeting between Dr Zuma and Dr Rice
discussed Zimbabwe:
Answer: Minister Dlamini Zuma responded by stating that "It
didn’t actually, (Zimbabwe as an issue did not arise) we
didn’t discuss it, no, no…. we discussed Iran, Sudan,
United Nations reforms, so we didn’t only focus on Iran, but
we didn’t discuss Zimbabwe”.
Question: Did Madame Secretary say that there might be an emergency
meeting, perhaps in two weeks’ time, convened by the BoG on
Iran?
Answer: Well she didn’t put any time frames, but she just
said there would have to be a meeting of the BoG, but she
didn’t say exactly when. Thank you!
Enquiries: Nomfanelo Kota
Cell: 082 459 3787
Issued by: Department of Foreign Affairs
11 January 2005